Stirk NPC Claim [TDF]

[SamirA]

This is the claim for NPCing Stirk.

[TerrifyingDaedricFoe]

Claim

At the moment I'm sorting out PC classes, factions and generic dialogue (Cyrodiil lore and stuff - I'll post some up later). When I'm finished I'll upload it all in a single esp for someone to add to PC_Data.

[SamirA]

You could have granted this as well

Granted.

[TerrifyingDaedricFoe]

This file contains factions, classes and races for P:C. The esp needs to be added to PC_Data. Some of the factions are wip, but they aren't such high priority at the moment. I'll finish them off later. At the moment the colovians and nibenese use vanilla body parts - we''ll have to create a patch that changes them to use the imperial better bodies parts (unless we make our own).

[Scamp]

So how'll we handle this? I was thinking I will send my file over to SamirA once I'm done with my work on Stirk. Then he would be going to replace those interior chimneys and send it to you, TDF. You would then have to merge it with all the interiors that yet have to be made/finished, though I'm sure you can handle it. That sound any good?

[TerrifyingDaedricFoe]

Yep, that sounds good. Until I get the Stirk file to work on I'll put the NPCs just in a test cell and then merge them into the Stirk file. Btw, I forgot to put some scripts in the file I uploaded above. I'll upload the correct version later today.

Edit: Da-daaah!

[Scamp]

Shouldn't be too long. One week max until I am done with my part.

[TerrifyingDaedricFoe]

I'm going away for about ten days, and I don't know whether or not I'll have internet access, so I've uploaded all the work I've done so far on the file. It's not that much, to be honest.

I'm about halfway through copying generic vanilla greetings into Greeting 7 so they're above the "omg ur the Nerevarine, ur so cool" greetings. That means that those greetings won't show up in Cyrodiil.

[TerrifyingDaedricFoe]

My latest version.

Not a great deal has happened in the last six months...

[SamirA]

That is ok TDF, we are getting close to where this is an active item though. Only 4 ints left to be claimed and just a few more than that to be sent to review.

[TerrifyingDaedricFoe]

Updated with dialog for 'my trade' and 'Cyrodiil lore'. Some of the Cyrodiil lore dialog is placeholder for now.

[Tarius]

I think we should use ipsum lorem for the place holder text. haha

[TerrifyingDaedricFoe]

Here's the latest version. I don't think there's that much more in it than in the version I uploaded two-and-a-half months ago.

[TerrifyingDaedricFoe]

Here's a number of files containing notes and other useful information for this claim. I couldn't upload them directly to the forums because the extensions .xlsx and .docx are not allowed.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66513850/Stirk%20NPCs.xlsx
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66513850/Cyrodiil%20lore.docx
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66513850/little%20advice.docx
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66513850/my%20trade.docx
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66513850/PC%20County.docx
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66513850/Stirk%20Building%20List.docx

[Worsas]

Updated file!

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All NPCs that had PC_Colovian (no PC_Nibenese in this file) as Race have been turned into Imperials.

All dialogue entries that relied on the PC_Colovian or PC_Nibenese race (there was only one respectively) have been changed to rely on the regular imperial race.

All of the PC_Colovian-npcs that were given certain faces by TDF have been made to match in appearance.

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There was something that seemed erroneos about TDFs file: All of the npcs have the nolore variable set on them from the start in order to omit a lot of MW-specific dialogue, still the topic-entries under Cyrodiil-lore and in many other places relied on the nolore variable not to be set on the npc. TDF already had an own nolore-variable for P:C named PC_NoLore for P:C-specific nolore behaviour that he even used in a couple of places where you would usually use nolore in vanilla. I think he established the variable later on and didn't get around to update all previous dialogue entries to use PC_NoLore instead.

Now all dialogue entries and greetings that relied on nolore not being set have been changed to utilize PC_NoLore not being set on the npc instead. I'm 99.9907% sure that that is correct and what TDF wanted to to anyway.

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The topics that have been worked on by TDF are these:

Cyrodiil lore - contains 64 dialogue entries on Cyrodiil-lore (7 placeholder entries yet). The topic itself does not seem to get unlocked anywhere yet.
Abecean Sea - Dialogue entries given by savants, scouts, fishers and sailors
Background - There are a few entries in here. But they are still missing for most of the npcs
my trade - contains my trade entries for all PC_Classes
Stirk - Generic dialogue entries on Stirk
Greeting 7 - Many many many generic/common greetings in here TDF prepared for us. Beyond that more specific generic greetings for inhabitants of Stirk.

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The previous file had some of the stirk interior cells included with it and two of the npcs (two khajiits) had been placed already. I removed the cells again, as they will go through a last review by Scamp again. It shouldn't be too hard to place them again when Stirk is ready for populating.

I have given Sophia Tragia some clothing in accordance with her description to test dialogue ingame with her. Can be changed or left as is.

[Infragris]

Had a quick look through Cyrodiil lore - can't say that it reads well. Most of it seems like placeholder dialogue, very basic information and repetitive structures (a lot of topics start with "Let me tell you about..."). Some answers should be parsed for Nibenese/Colovian opinions, maybe. Things like current events, the economy, the racial and cultural divisions in Cyrodiil, etc. have been fleshed out a lot recently, and I'm wondering how we can best integrate new information.

[Worsas]

I should be able to insert missing topic entries from TDFs above documents and other new entries. I have looked into dialogue and quests a couple of times in the past, so I have an overall idea of how things work.

[Scamp]

So, this is just the NPCs and dialogue, right? Should I work off my v2.5, fix the exterior, merge interiors, and then we can merge it with this?

[TerrifyingDaedricFoe]

Fantastic Worsas, you're a hero.

P:C dialogue should use the PC_nolore to rather than vanilla nolore. All Cyroddil NPCs should have vanilla nolore as part of their script to stop them getting lots of the vanilla dialogue.

As for the Cyrodiil lore topic, if I remember correctly, most of the entries are copied directly from vanilla Morrowind lore and have their content edited to reflect Cyrodiil. The style ("Let me tell you about...") is unchanged.

Don't feel obliged to keep the same dialogue, faces, etc. If you can make a change for the better, then by all means do so.

@Scamp
Yes, this contains just dialogue and NPCs. I believe I loaded it alongside the v2.5 file (which contained the exterior and some interiors).

[Worsas]

So, this is just the NPCs and dialogue, right? Should I work off my v2.5, fix the exterior, merge interiors, and then we can merge it with this?

Yes.

@TerrifyingDaedricFoe: Your previous work is really appreciated. We would be in a bad position, if we had to create all those topic-entries from scratch.