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Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby SamirA » 29 Jan 2014, 16:37

While this is all a while off I wanted to begin conceptualizing what we might see out of Nibenay. We want both our Colovian and Nibenese styles to reflect a Greco-Roman style and we have been doing a fine job of this in Colovia while also sticking to the Cyro-Nordic roots of the vanilla game. For Nibenay in general I want to paint a very contrasting image to that on Colovia, both in the architecture and the landscape, but I still want the architecture to evoke that Greco-Roman feel. As such I have been looking at design based off of neo-classical designs and here are some really nice images that show the style I am imagining in the type of settings we would have in our watery Nibenay.

The keys here are domes, columns and arches along with the continued use of light base colors like marbles and limestones.
http://djahal.deviantart.com/art/Peace- ... -114092069

Here we see a blending of the style with a very similar build style to much of our Colovia which is exactly the sort of thing we want in the IC. Don't pay attention to the landscape so much here as the mixture of the peeked and red tile roofs with that of the domed buildings.
http://flaviobolla.deviantart.com/art/Asgard-83749783

This next item would make a great home to a Daedric statue in the jungles of Nibenay. Notice the whimsical elements added into the basic dome, column, arch style I am talking about. This really is evocative of the nature of the Nibenese and many elements seem very eastern which is something that will be seen in the Nibenese culture and does not have to detract from the Greco-Roman style as seen here.
http://jameswolf.deviantart.com/art/sac ... n-58067711

I posted this as IC concept art as well, but again it fits the same aesthetic I am describing here.
http://rquack.deviantart.com/art/Palace-53702691

Another piece with similar designs, but more of an Asian influence. The domes have been flattened a bit and you see some of the inward curving roofs consistent with many Asian cultural styles but the domes, arches, and columns are still in the basic ideas seen in the image.
http://heavenlydeamonic.deviantart.com/ ... -155952605
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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby Ald_Moth » 31 Jan 2014, 17:51

Speaking of Asian influences, one of the ideas I've had was perhaps having something akin to Chinese pavilions for the Nibenese, but instead of set in a garden or the woods, it's set on river like these what with being a river-based society and all:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _Sagar.jpg

Another would be that in some temples the architects would carve out decorative bas reliefs all over the pillars.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7-ExJcrvomE/U ... 2_1280.jpg
http://www.vaisnava.cz/fotky/mountabu/MountAbu2-v.jpg

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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby Tarius » 01 Feb 2014, 00:17

I am against most stuff having asian influences. Its something that should be used sparingly.
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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby SamirA » 01 Feb 2014, 01:55

Tarius wrote:I am against most stuff having asian influences. Its something that should be used sparingly.

The Nibenese are heavily influenced by the Akaviri who are essentially Asian in their real-world cultural style. NOT having Asian influence would be weird.
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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby Saint_Jiub » 01 Feb 2014, 03:21

Doesn't mean we should go overboard with it. I agree with Tarius that the stereotypical Japanese curved roofs should be used sparingly - I would say for specifically Tsaesci installations such as Cloud Ruler Temple - and we should play up the unique style of the Nibenese themselves. That being said, my feeling is that we should draw a lot of inspiration from the fantastical concept art of Shivering Isles and try to bring that into our own setting:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC03.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concep ... esid01.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concep ... ithy01.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC08.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC07.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC11.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC12.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-ITorch01.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-IDoorway01.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-MHouse02.jpg

The rest, of course, can be found here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Concept_Art

As far as real-world inspiration goes- Byzantine/Turkish and Russian architecture all the way. Stuff like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 011-4a.jpg

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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby SamirA » 01 Feb 2014, 03:36

I like those concept images and think we could certainly use those. Russian though? No, if we are going to avoid anything, that would be it. There will be no Christmas ornament topped towers in Nibenay, it has zero connection to anything in lore (granted there is not a lot there) and simply would not look very good in a jungle environment.
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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby Saint_Jiub » 01 Feb 2014, 04:10

Garish colors, crazy patterns and unique shapes? Dude, that is 100% Nibenay from top to bottom.

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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby SamirA » 01 Feb 2014, 04:21

Garish color is about the only thing that can claim of those. The patterns are simple and the shapes only stand out due to the color thrown on them, not because they are unique or interesting. Again, your ideas to look to the SI are good, the Kremlin is just not the way to go. You can be colorful and whimsical without being tacky. It is like someone built a nice palace then decided to top it with ornaments and paint it like a scene out of Miami Vice.
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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby Tarius » 01 Feb 2014, 06:30

Saint_Jiub wrote:Doesn't mean we should go overboard with it. I agree with Tarius that the stereotypical Japanese curved roofs should be used sparingly - I would say for specifically Tsaesci installations such as Cloud Ruler Temple - and we should play up the unique style of the Nibenese themselves. That being said, my feeling is that we should draw a lot of inspiration from the fantastical concept art of Shivering Isles and try to bring that into our own setting:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC03.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concep ... esid01.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concep ... ithy01.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC08.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC07.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC11.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-DreamC12.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-ITorch01.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-IDoorway01.jpg
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SI-concept-MHouse02.jpg

The rest, of course, can be found here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Concept_Art

As far as real-world inspiration goes- Byzantine/Turkish and Russian architecture all the way. Stuff like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 011-4a.jpg

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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby Ald_Moth » 05 Mar 2014, 01:10

Gotta agree with SamirA. Moscow is no go.

On the subject, should we also take account how the Greeks have historically painted their temples in lush colours? It seems like the kinda thing Nibenese would be doing, plus would give a nice contrast.

http://bookofarts.files.wordpress.com/2 ... temple.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... enon_1.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JTusJX158es/T ... G_0024.JPG
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Temples/i ... sAdler.jpg

And as to how Asian influences go, I think we should remember that East Asian architecture isn't all about the funny roofs. (Sometimes there are no curved roofs at all: http://hubei.chinadaily.com.cn/gov/imag ... 9e8801.jpg.
http://michellelombard.files.wordpress. ... c_0795.jpg)

Subtle elements like the sturdy stone bases, the round gateways, the window grates and the idea of roof charms especially could be employed. Not to mention that a Chinese Siheyuan already has some resemblances with a Roman Domus.
Stilt houses could also make some good Nibenese river-towns.
Hongcun and Fenghuang would also be good to draw inspirations from

As to how the roofs go, I think a sensible solution is to perhaps keep the general shape, but remove the curving of it.

The Moodabidri I think is a pretty good example of having the subtle hints of East Asian roof incluences, but not in an obvious way, as does certain thai houses, once the decorative edges removed, not to mention the two examples of non-curving roofs I've already listed above.

Another idea is to make the roofs "layered", much like some Hindu temples look, or fittingly, what Sky Haven Temple's concept art is already doing (that small building on the left being a good example of what I'm talking about).

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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby SamirA » 05 Mar 2014, 02:21

I think this is all very good stuff.
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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby gro-dhal » 13 Mar 2014, 23:38

Indian architecture contains many elements that are similar to those seen in classical Greece, while being different enough to be striking.

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/ic&CISOPTR=6808&DMSCALE=100.00000&DMWIDTH=802&DMHEIGHT=530&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&REC=1&DMTHUMB=0&DMROTATE=0
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000.Z5mXmRZw.4/s/650/Red-Fort-Colonnade-India.jpg

I also think they'd be big into gazebos and similar structures. Because of the humidity they'd live as much of their lives outdoors as possible.

http://data2.whicdn.com/images/71179748/large.jpg

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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby SamirA » 14 Mar 2014, 01:15

I'm of the same mind as you gro-dhal. Indian is a good choice of Asian influence for us due to the similar nature yet striking difference as you mentioned.
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Re: Nibenese Architecture Concepts

Postby Scamp » 15 Mar 2014, 22:44

Well, that narrow stairway is a no-go for Bruma, though the idea is nice and could be used for smaller, cool mountain locations.
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